DECLARING SOVEREIGNTY FROM DRAKES' INTERVIEW
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1043-massarrests (Transcript)
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DK: I laid out the primary basis for what is required in order to declare any area.
Let’s say you got an area somewhere in the middle of Timbuktu-land, but it's yours and it's registered in terms of the boundaries, basically.
Or, you have at least real definitive markings as to so you can tell where it is, what it is and how big it is.
You can then declare that area sovereign.
And by doing so, you actually create your own nation-state.
 
DW: Well, if I declared my toilet a sovereign zone, then I could drop waste into it and be pretty much like the government.
 
DK: Well, so long as it stays within your area, yes.
By that I mean you should declare the whole yard -- and use a finger system if you're going to do something of that nature. [DW laughs]
That way you're protected legally.
 
DW: Right on.
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PENNSYLVANIA SOVEREIGNTY
 
DK: But I'm saying, there are little bits of information. It can get squirrely, and it's a lot of fun to deal with, but ...
I laid this process out. Basically what we did, and the way the process worked, happened, as I said, by accident.
While I'm telling this guy how this works, somebody in the great State of Pennsylvania took notes.
 
DW: Oh wow.
 
DK: I didn't have any idea anybody would even be listening, other than to shut this turkey up that didn't know what he was talking about.
 
DW: Right. So, obviously, a state itself could be a “sovereign zone” or declared as such – and those who govern the state could get wind of what you've figured out from your extensive research and implement that research.
 
DK: Yes.
 
DW: Wow.
 
DK: That's basically what happened in Pennsylvania.
 
 
NOTIFYING THE HAGUE
 
DK: The person that took the notes was fairly knowledgeable in the real sovereign legalities and lawfulness.
This person took that knowledge, in combination with what I had put together, got with some other people, and they said: Well yeah, let's see what happens.
So, they put together a Process of Notification and they sent it off to the International Court of the Hague.
[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Court_of_Justice ]
 
DW: Oh my God.
 
DK: This is the Civilian Division, as I understand it, or Civil Division. And they, of course, sent a reply back when they received it, that they had received that package.
The rest of it was a receipt of the intent of the package. They had made a copy of what they had sent, a Certified Copy of the original, that sort of thing.
Now they're sitting on a package there, and the Hague's got one in their records.
 
DW: Right. So now you have a complete paper trail.
 
DK: Exactly.
 
 ONLY A NOTIFICATION PROCESS
 
DW: This might be like a Subpoena, where the simple fact that the Hague accepted the paperwork by definition locks them into some sort of binding arrangement.
 
DK: No. No.
 
DW: Oh, okay.
 
DK: No. This is exactly and only a Notification Process. I want to make that perfectly clear.
 
DW: Okay.
 
DK: What happens through receipt of the paperwork is that it goes into the Hague Record.
In that manner, the Notification then is a Publication, like you'd use in a newspaper to advertise: I'm not responsible for my debts any further.
 
DW: Okay.
 
DK: Well, this thing says: We are now a sovereign nation-state.
 
DW: Wow. Gotcha.
 
DK: It's very similar to that, only this is an ‘international newspaper’, in effect.
We have, basically by sending one pack -- one little pack like that -- created a sovereign, independent nation-state.
 
THE PENTAGON BECOMES INTERESTED IN THE NOTIFICATION
 
DK: Okay. As soon as that got a receipt that this thing had been delivered, they got a call from a higher-up in the Pentagon.
 
DK: And that person says: I understand you guys have been doing some Notification internationally?
Yes.
I understand that you seem to find this process as being rather simple?
Yes.
The next thing was: Do you think you can replicate or reproduce that sucker?
And the person went: I don't know.
 
THE PENTAGON SAYS “GO FOR IT”
 
DK: What you got right then was: I have no idea, quite simply. We can see what's available; we can try and find out.
The guy -- the person at the Pentagon ... I'm not going to say it's a ‘guy’ because I'm not going to put gender on it; simply that, you know, it could be a female 
The man -- the people at the Pentagon -- said: Go for it. Let's see what happens.
And they said: Okay, we'll give it a shot.
Now, these people are involved in freedom, just like I was.
They wanted to be able to do something that was real, proactive, didn't get anybody in trouble and yet was something that could also be used in other ways.
Okay, they didn't know at the time what that little simplistic package for that one state did.
They didn't find out until after they started researching it.
 
THEY DECIDED TO RUN WITH THE PROJECT
 
DK: At any rate, we start boogieing with this: Okay; we'll take the project and we'll run with it.
We were able to receive Notice on about the end of February of this year [2012] that the package, the whole package, of a majority of the states had been received by The Hague.
 
DW: Oh, wow.
 
DK: In other words, each little nation-state package went into a big box.
The big box was delivered to The Hague, and we got Notification of the entire package.
 
DOES THIS CIVILIAN MOVEMENT GIVE THE MILITARY PERMISSION TO ACT?
 
DW: Let me ask you this.
 
DK: Yes?
 
DW: Let’s say the military, in its Oath to defend the Constitution of the United States against domestic enemies, gets word of a civilian-based initiative which demonstrates that the states wish to have their sovereignty returned to them.
Doesn't that legally give them the right to move forward on this -- and enforce the will of the majority of the states?
 
DK: Well, that's part of the process I'm coming to.
 
DW: Okay, great.
 
DK: This is not just a simplistic process of sending a newspaper clipping overseas with the receipt that it got to where it was going.
 
DW: Oh, I get that.
 
THE BASIC PREMISE OF A NATION-STATE
 
DK: So, the basic premise of a nation-state is this:
What most people used was either their own constitution or they wrote one. It had to agree with the 1787 United States Constitution, to include the 13th.
And I mean the Original Thirteenth Amendment -- where certain people are not allowed to hold foreign offices here in the states.
The Bill of Rights, the Articles of Confederation, and that real cool document called the Declaration of Independence.
 
DK: By declaring our sovereignty and our disengagement, or our effort to remove ourself -- ourselves; ourself meaning individual states -- from the corporate United States government, what this did was to re-birth the Declaration of Independence...
 
DK: ...which states on page two that when the government gets out of whack, you got the right to take care of the problem.
 
DW: Absolutely.
 
THE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE A DECLARATION
 
DK: Now, here's the other part of this.
The manner and format of using those documents, the original founding documents, in conjunction with a meeting by representative residents of a state, gives those people the right to make the Declaration.
 
DK: This then gives legal authority, by the civilian authority, to the military to take actions as necessary to back up the civilian action.
 
DW: That's what I thought. Okay. Perfect.
 
DK: It's kind of convoluted, and I know it's not real simple. But simply, we sent off Notification. The military gave us a gold star; they just loved it, okay?
 
WERE THESE ORDINARY PEOPLE?
 
DW: I'm assuming that, just so people get clear on this, you're not talking about just a group of ordinary folks who are like surfing the Net and listening to ‘truth radio.’
These are actually people who have some degree of influence in these states that you were networking with.
 
DK: No. As a matter of fact, some of them are not very well educated. I'm going to make this perfectly clear: You don't need influence in order to take certain actions.
 
DW: I see. So, the simple fact that we are all American citizens -- everyone whom you're speaking about, myself included -- any citizen has the right to do this.
 
DK: Yes, basically.
 
DW: Okay. Perfect.
 
BECOMING A SOVEREIGN NATION
 
DK: Now, the premise is this.
In term of declaring your state as free of the United States government -- and I'm talking about the corporate government and all of its affiliates -- what happens is that each state becomes, according to the Notification Process, its own sovereign nation.
 
DW: Mmm.
 
DK: So, this is where the “nation-states” handle comes from.
 
DW: I see.
 
DK: It's just a plurality of what individual states did. You have to have a certain number of people who reside in each state in order to accomplish the process.
It's not difficult. We do have backup and assistance for that if somebody has problems.
 
WE GOT A MAJORITY OF THE STATES
 
DK: In our effort, we got enough of a majority of the states to have a cushion -- in case there was some problem with some of the paperwork.
This was along with a fair group of Indian nations, who also submitted paperwork in such a fashion that the basis is this:
The [de jure] United States has been set free from the corporate [de facto] government ... literally, on a lawful basis, as recognized internationally.
 
DW: I just ... I can hear the howling laughter of skeptics who are already stroking their egos and saying:
Oh sure, you know, he can say whatever he wants, but if it ever even made it up to the Supreme Court, they would just knock it down, just like they appointed Bush in the whole election debacle between Bush and Gore.
 
DK: Not exactly.
 
DW: Okay.

HOW THE ARRESTS WILL BE MADE
 
DK: Several things have happened.
Number one -- we convinced enough people to abide by documentation, done the correct way.
We submitted it to The Hague in terms of a majority of states.
This basically set a precedent for being free, and for military/civilian action.
The military backs us up by way of federal Marshals [U.S. Marshals], who contact local law enforcement.
Local law enforcement actually makes the arrests.
 
 
HOW DO THE FEDERAL MARSHALS FIT INTO THIS, EXACTLY?
 
DW: I’m sorry, just so that people understand, are federal Marshals members of the Army National Guard or the Air Force? Or what are federal Marshals?
 
DK: [laughs] federal Marshals are federal law enforcement officers, basically.
 
DW: Okay.
 
DK: The definition, though, is: by present authority, which puts them in the trick bag of having to follow the edict of what we’ve done in terms of the will of the people to go along with the military plan.
[ http://www.usmarshals.gov/index.html ]
 
[EDITOR: I’m going to not capitalize “federal” because that’s not part of the official name like “Marshal”; if Drake had said “US Marshals,” then I would have capitalized “US,” of course.
What’s great about US Marshals is that they date all the way back to the original Republic, so their source of power PREDATES their conversion into a “Service” that supports the current, corporate form of government.
The reactivation of the Declaration of Independence reactivates not only the Republic, but any Lawful police-related offices that the Republic had on all levels – County, State, etc, including the US Marshals acting under the Organic Constitution.
Another important thing to understand is that the local County (de jure County, not the corporate county) Sheriff is THE #1 Lawful Officer in the de jure County.
He has the full power to apply the necessary police action to protect the fledgling, born-again Republic within the County.
His power supersedes ANYONE acting under color of law, be it county, state and federal. A sheriff can order the CIA, FBI, FEMA to leave. Period.]

 
 
US MARSHALS ARE INDEPENDENT OF MOST OTHER GOVERNMENT ASPECTS
 
DW: If you wanted to meet a federal Marshal, what offices would you go to? I mean, are they FBI? Are they CIA? Are they Homeland Security?
 
DK: They’re on their own.
 
DW: Okay.
 
DK: That’s the nice thing about a federal Marshal; he’s relatively independent of most things, okay?
There are some that say: I’m in charge of them. They’re liable to get a strong argument that that only depends on the situation.
In some situations a citizen is in charge of the FBI or the CIA, depending on the situation, and it varies.
But basically, a federal Marshal is between; he’s a federal employee of the current power.
 
DW: Okay.
 
DK: Okay.
So, the Notification Process authorized the military to contact the federal Marshals, who then contact the local authorities to actually take the actions of arrest.
 
 
HOW WOULD YOU FIND A US MARSHAL?
 
DW: Okay. This might piss some people off but I really want to clear this up. [DK laughs] Do these Marshals exist in different offices?
I mean, how would you find one? What kind of offices would they be employed by?
 
DK: National Security Administration would probably be the end office if you wanted to really look them up in that relationship.
 
DW: Okay.
 
[EDITOR: Drake is one man and it’s OK that he doesn’t know everything about this. That shows he’s the real thing.
It turns out that the US Marshals predate the NSA.
Thus, the Republic-based aspect of the US Marshals is superior in lawful power to anyone in the NSA.
The NSA is a color-of-law agency that derives its power wholly outside of the Common Law / Constitution.]

 
 
 
US MARSHALS ARE ALLOWED TO CROSS STATE BORDERS
 
DK: They are primarily tasked in such a way that a federal Marshal can go across the border -- when the border is common to the country he comes from.
So you could go from, say Arizona or New Mexico, into Mexico if need be, and you would have law enforcement authority there, okay?
 
DW: Would these Marshals potentially be employed in a police station? Would they be at the police station?
 
DK: No, they have their own offices, federal Marshals offices. There’s a variety of them.
 
DW: Okay.
 
DK: They have a combination of different duties.
 
DW: I don’t mean to sound like an idiot. I’m just cautious to make sure that people don’t think that you invented the term “federal Marshal”
I don’t want them to think that it’s just some guy on the Internet…[Drake laughs] reading websites and: Oh yeah, I’m a Marshal and here’s the little badge that I made.
 
DK: [laughs] Yeah. I bought one of those yesterday down at the Dollar Store. I understand what you’re saying.
 
DW: [laughs] This is real. These guys are federally employed.
 
 
AIR MARSHALS
 
DK: Well, they’re ... You’ve heard of Federal Air Marshals?
 
DW: Yeah, yeah, they’re on the airplane.
 
DK: He is a federal Marshal. He just simply is on air duty.
 
DW: Okay. Got it.
 
DK: That’s all the difference there is.
[ http://www.tsa.gov/lawenforcement/programs/fams.shtm ]
 
[EDITOR: I don’t mean to undermine Drake’s info here, but the Fed Air Marshals seem to be a part of TSA, not of the US Marshal Service.
I’ve searched through the US Marshal site and see nothing related to any air service, other than prisoner / alien (human) transport in jets.
 Federal Air Marshals were started by Kennedy; it was later absorbed into the monster of the TSA, which in turn is part of the DHS.]

 
 
US MARSHALS STAND BETWEEN CIVILIANS AND MILITARY
 
DK: There are a lot these guys out there. They’re very well trained, they’re very knowledgeable and they’re extraordinarily professional.
 
DW: And they’re not soldiers?
 
DK: No. That’s the neat part about this. They’re in between the civilian and the military.
 
DW: Right.
 
DK: Okay. Now, you’ve got those three entities: the military, the federal Marshal and the local law enforcement.
What our paperwork did was to give the military civilian authority to contact the federal Marshals, to contact local law enforcement -- and have a BIG party for all these arrests.
 
DW: Wow.
 
[EDITOR: If I may add another note here, “Law Enforcement Officers” is the term for the corporate-service cops.
“Peace Officers” is the term for police officers who serve the Republic.
There are many cops within the current color-of-law framework who would not hesitate to support the police action to bust the color-of-law conspirators – and support the re-creation of our beloved Republic.]

 
 
NO COUP, NO DIRECT MILITARY ACTION, AND NO MARTIAL LAW
 
DK: This does not include any military coup. It does not include any military action, and it does not include martial law.
None of that is going to happen.
What is going to happen is you will see federal Marshals backing up local law enforcement, taking people into custody.
There may be a stand of troops -- in case they need extra bodies to snatch somebody that decides to run.
Or, let’s say there’s a whole bunch of people in a building, and they didn’t know there were 7,000 of them in there.
You’re going to need an extra hand in order to incarcerate all these people, put them on the bus and send them wherever they need to go.
So the military will act in a backup fashion, in some ways.
 
 
THIS DOES NOT VIOLATE POSSE COMITATUS
 
DW: Does that violate Posse Comitatus?
 
DK: No, because the military is not acting as a police force directly.
 
DW: They are assisting a police action.
 
DK: Exactly.
 
DW: Okay, got it.
 
DK: And the police action is one of control of and/or prevention of rioting or general civil disobedience that would call for a police situation.
You have to look all this stuff up.
A regular protest of citizenry basically can be met with a general police force.
The people that called out the National Guard on several occasions during things that were a problem have found that they acted illegally.
They were told: Don’t ever do that again.
There were a lot of people who were informed that this is a no-no, [that] is ok, and don’t you cross that line.
 
DW: Sure.
 
 
MORE DETAILS ON WHAT “THE PLAN” STIPULATES
 
DK: Ok, so you’ve got these three entities. Now back to The Plan. The Plan stipulates several things.
One -- you’re not going to have a police state. You’re not going to have the military in control.
It’s not martial law. They’re not going to come in the house and snatch you up. That ain’t happening.
 
 
THE INTENT AND PURPOSE IS TO MINIMIZE CHAOS
 
DK: What’s happening is this -- the intent and purpose of this plan was to minimize the chaos involved in the action.
Now, when you arrest several thousand people in a city, it’s going to create a little bit of a hubbub.
People are going to see the military. They’re going to see a lot of policemen doing their jobs -- and this will be on video.
I mean you’re going to have CNN and all the local news people. Everybody is going to have some kind of video of this stuff.
 
 
WILL THE POLICEMEN BE IN RIOT GEAR?
 
DW: And I assume these policemen will probably be in riot gear, which will have black uniforms and scary-looking stuff.
 
DK: Maybe. That depends on whether or not they expect problems with who they’re dealing with. Generally no, because it’s not a riot situation.
 
DW: Okay.
 
DK: It could turn that way. They’ll bring the gear. I mean, it’ll be in the trunk, most likely.
Most of your people that have been responsible for the problems are office-type people.
They’re not necessarily physically active or capable.
And, to go along with that, they’re not going to torture them, or say “Oh, he fell down 14 flights of stairs” -- or any of that.
 
 
DEEPLY EMBEDDED MOLES READY TO MAKE THEIR MOVE
 
DW: I’ve heard from my own insider that there are an astonishing number of very deeply embedded moles who are much closer to these people than they ever thought anybody would get -- and actually not have been outed.
 
DK: Exactly.
 
 
WE WILL BE NOTIFIED A DAY IN ADVANCE
 
DK: There’re a couple of things in this. First of all, the gist of The Plan is to not create chaos. In other words, you’re going to have public announcements.
People such as yourself and myself will be notified approximately a day ahead of schedule -- in terms of putting this on the Internet so it can go viral.
 
DW: Okay.
 
DK: I would imagine, doing this interview, this is going to get kind of viral-like.
 
DW: Very much so. Some of my videos have millions of views. This will be distributed throughout hundreds, if not thousands of different blogs, and re-posted.
And if we let people know that there’s going to be a one-day window of notification, you can absolutely guarantee that there will be a massive tidal wave of publicity once this moment arrives.
 
DK: Well, that moment arrives when we are given the green light to notify our people -- the ones that we have contact with.
 
At that point, then, it is to go viral on the Internet. We have been asked to try to access as much mainstream media -- be that AM radio or whatever, it doesn't matter -- but as much as we can.
 
 
THIS IS NOT AN ATTEMPT TO OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT
 
DW: I would imagine that the oligarchs, who are the bad guys, are going to be hearing this and getting their soldiers and their mercenaries to listen to this and say:
You gotta get these SOBs, because they're trying to overthrow the government.
 
DK: No. What we are doing, in terms of the action that's going to be taken -- and I'm not talking about us or our actions -- our actions are only a part of The Plan.
The Plan, basically, is to arrest these people. No destruction. No firefights. No gunplay or any kind of violence, if possible.
The idea of this is -- no chaos, no violence, AND a legal way to do it -- a lawful manner in which to conduct the operation.
This has been coming since George Washington made federal districts out of our innocent group of Thirteen Colonies. So, [laughs] uh ...
 
 
THE PLAN CALLS FOR FULL STABILITY IN ALL INFRASTRUCTURE
 
DK: The Plan also offers protections of keeping the lights on, making sure the Internet works, that the phone works, you can flush the toilet, you can go to work and not have to worry about it.
 
DW: Right. We've heard from other insiders -- in fact, it was from the one you met on the phone with me.
These people, since the '80s, (and I mean the conspirators now, the bad guys) have elaborate plans to blow up a whole bunch of bridges, wipe out power, wipe out sewage and wipe out water, in the event that anything like this were to happen to them.
And I also know, however, that there are so many moles and so many people who will not stand by and let this happen, that if they think they're going to be able to do this, they're sorely mistaken.
 
But they may try, and there may be certain levels of disruption that will need to be prevented, as you're saying.
 
 
TACTICAL POSITIONING IS GOING ON – RIGHT THIS MINUTE
 
DK: Right now, tactical positioning is going on. And I mean right this minute. The tactical positioning is being done in such a manner that nobody's going to be the wiser.
 
DW: Right.
 
DK: These are regular people they see every day. They have no idea that that person happens to be an agent for the good guys, as you say, moles or however you want to look at that, okay?
 
 
THEIR POWERS HAVE BEEN CURTAILED TREMENDOUSLY
 
DK: Irrespective as to what the fear mongers will tell you, the bad guys have lost enough funds, lost enough support and there are enough people that are upset with them that their powers have been curtailed tremendously.
 
DW: Well, look, Drake. They wouldn't have done those bailouts if they could have possibly avoided it.
 
DK: Right.
 
DW: That was an astonishing move [DK laughs] that really showed that they are just absolutely grasping at straws.
It's like Wile E. Coyote when he's paddling in the air and he hasn't realized he's falling yet.
 
DK: [laughs] Exactly.
 
 
RECENT EXECUTIVE ORDERS ARE A SIGN OF DESPERATION
 
DK: To give you an example of how desperate they are, they just had a couple of executive orders from their main lackey in the White House saying that they got rights to everything.
 
DW: I'm well aware of that, and it's utterly astonishing.
The only thing I can think of is this.
These guys are so desperate and they're so lacking in common sense that they think that even at this late stage in the game, they can be in this poker-bluff.
They think they can actually get people to believe that they could have the boots on the ground to enforce these ridiculous, ridiculous executive orders.
 
DK: Well, then you've got the NDAA, which didn't help. Basically, as you're saying, the idea is to foster fear within the freedom movement -- and primarily within the citizenry.
 
DW: Well, it's working very well.
 
DK: I'm glad to see people stand up and start taking these things to task, at least.
 
DW: Yeah.
 
DK: That shows that there are some people out there that do have some guts.
 
 
THESE ARE LAST-GASP EFFORTS
 
DK: Primarily though, you have to remember that these are last-gasp efforts.
The only thing they've got left is, at this point, mostly control of the press -- and they're losing their grips on that.
They are doing this sort of shake-the-bush-to-see-if-the-rabbit-comes-out maneuver right now.
 
DW: As I was saying, you have to have people to hold the guns.
 
DK: For anybody who wants to listen to it, I addressed the troops. That's active duty, reserve, retired and disabled.
That is again, on the website, freedomreigns.us.
[ http://www.freedomreigns.us/Home_Page.php ]
 
 
THE TWO BIGGEST THINGS THAT CONCERN THE ACTIVE DUTY TROOPS
 
DK: The basic thing I have heard from active duty troops is that they have two things that concern them.
The first one is that if they disobey orders -- it doesn't matter whether it's lawful or not -- but they're going to be kicked out of the military.
Well, there ain't any jobs out there, and if these guys ain't got skills, they're screwed -- and they realize this.
They're a little bit fearful of that.
 
 
NINETY PERCENT OF TROOPS WILL GO AWOL IF MARTIAL LAW IS DECLARED
 
DK: The other part is that if somebody decides to declare martial law, 80-some, 90% of them, give or take, are going to go AWOL.
And they're taking their equipment with them and going home.
 
DW: NINETY percent?
 
DK: Well, somewhere between eighty and ninety percent are saying: No. That ain't happening.
 
DW: Wow.
 
DK: We're not going to go after somebody's grandma with a combat weapon. That's stupid, okay? That's ridiculous.
 
 
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LAWFUL AND UNLAWFUL ORDERS
 
DK: What you have to remember is that there's a difference between lawful and unlawful orders or directives.
The unlawful order or directive will tell you to go against what you know to be the truth -- according to the Constitution.
Posse Comitatus says that you are not a police force.
Therefore, you are not to go in and extract people from houses.
That ain't cool. And it's not to happen.
And you will receive counter-orders, possibly, that tell you: Nah, forget that -- and arrest that officer.
That's liable to happen if somebody ordered it.
So, the lawful order is going to be something that is going to be in operation that can be carried out lawfully.
 
 
WHAT IF A SOLDIER IS PUT UNDER NATO JURISDICTION?
 
DW: I’ve heard some people say, “Oh, the U.S. government is under the jurisdiction of the United Nations or NATO.”
What if they tried to make the soldier have a NATO badge that he's operating under?
 
DK: Okay.
 
DW: Is that a lawful order?
 
DK: Well, okay. That gets into the issue of being in uniform.
You are not allowed to carry out your service duties when you're out of uniform.
You take your shirt off, leave it off, go to formation in your T-shirt, and you'll find out how that feels.
 
DW: Hmm.
 
DK: The basis of this goes to the fact that you are in the United States military. And I don't care which branch it is -- doesn't matter.
You have to have, to be in uniform, the stars and bars above any other service emblem -- to include your insignia patch. That includes the United Nations and NATO.
 
 
WE ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH REQUESTS FOR ASSISTANCE
 
DK: Now, the problem is that we made agreements in 1933 and 1945, which primarily started with the North American Treaty Organization, known as NATO.
These agreements also deal with the United Nations, where basically, the group known as the United Nations and/or NATO, or an authorized group of nations that are our allies, can request or require our presence militarily -- and we are required to comply.
 
DW: Okay.
 
DK: The reason for this is that our representatives could rescind this, but don't have the guts to do so. Basically that and that alone.
When they do so, then you come out from under it.
 
 
THE DOCUMENTS SUPERSEDE ANYTHING PAST THE ORIGINAL 13TH AMENDMENT
 
DK: Now, there are some other things in this process people are not aware of. And that is that our documents supersede anything past the date of the [Original] Thirteenth Amendment.
And what it does is, at the point of action, all of the executive orders, all the horse hockey and other garbage that has been perpetrated upon the people illegally after the point of the [Original] Thirteenth Amendment -- that's 1812.
Remember that date and think about what's gone on since then.
Anything that disagrees with the Constitution, first of all, is null and void of any legal or lawful impact.
[ http://constitution.org/c5/index.php
 
EDITOR: This is the best site on the Internet, bar none, for accurate and transparent information about the differences between the Organic, Lawful Constitution of 1787 and the corporate constitution that has been unlawfully in effect since the 1800s.]
 

Further, anything that disagrees with the Constitution, basically, is to be stricken if it is a law, rule or regulation.
 
 
I WAS JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS” IS NOT A PLAUSIBLE DEFENSE
 
DW: How well did ‘I was just following orders’ hold up at the Nuremberg Trials?
 
DK: It didn't. Everybody that did that got convicted.
This is not considered a plausible defense, simply because you know the difference between torturing somebody and not.
The Field Manual states that you're not to engage civilians. That means you're not supposed to step on them, et cetera. All of this has been covered.
[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Field_Manuals ]
 
 
THE MY LAI MASSACRE
 
DK: I'm going to give you an example from Vietnam called the My Lai Massacre, okay? There was not too much done with that, but the problem was that several people came up with that exact defense.
And the court-martial said: No. That don't fly. Period.
Now, they lucked out -- and I mean this literally. They lucked out because a court-martial that deals with the taking of civilian life also carries the death penalty.
 
DW: Oh, my gosh. Yeah.
 
DK: They were lucky they didn't get executed. And I mean all of them -- because everybody that was involved is up for the death penalty under those conditions.
And it's not up to me. That's military code.
And I agree with that, primarily.

THE MASS ARRESTS ARE NOT INTENDED TO TAKE OVER THE GOVERNMENT
 
DK: Now, what we’re dealing with here is something a little different.
A lot of people say: Ooh, insurrectionists!
No, because you’re not trying to infiltrate a government and take it over. You’re not an invader.
You’re not trying to bring a bunch of people in -- unlike certain people in certain agencies that like to play games with guns across the border down South.
Unlike those people, you’re not trying to do any of that.
It’s not illegal because it’s a Notification Process only. But it does give the military the authority, in terms of civilian authority under the Constitution, to take action according to the betterment of our way of life.
This restores the American dream of mom and apple pie, being able to be peaceful, and not have to worry about a whole lot of things.
 
 
WHAT DO YOU TELL THE PERSONNEL WHO WANT TO BE INVOLVED?
 
DW: I would assume that the majority of retired personnel from the military, active personnel from the military, Special Forces and Black Operations guys are going to realize that if something like this starts to happen, they want to be involved.
But, right now they’re feeling like they’ve been given the mushroom treatment. [DK laughs] They’re sitting in the dark – and being fed a lot of BS.
Let’s assume that most of these people want to get involved. They want to know what to do once the time comes. What do you tell them?
 
 
LOOK AT THE CONSTITUTIONAL PREMISE OF A LAWFUL ORDER
 
DK: Look at it in terms of following the Constitutional premise of a lawful order.
A lawful order will not put you into a police situation. It does not call for roadblocks.
It does not call for martial law.
It does not in any way interfere directly with the civilian population and its operations.
What a lawful order does is it allows you stay out of those areas in such a fashion that you can carry out whatever duty it is -- and it could be any kind of a thing.
It could be playing war games or whatever, maneuvers. You might go down and assist somebody with logs. You never know.
It could be strictly a preparedness or ready training thing: Well, we’ve got to get these guys ready, see how quick they can get their gear, put them in the truck, take them over here and can you hump up over that hill? How long does that take?
These kinds of things are lawful orders.
 
 
AN INVASION WAS OFFERED – AND TURNED DOWN
 
DK: If there were to be an invasion -- and I understand that that’s been offered and turned down.
The difference there is you’re going to have people trying to come across the border -- for the strict purpose of taking you out.
That’s different.
 
 
DRAKE WAS ASKED TO CONTACT PEOPLE AND TELL THEM TO GET READY
 
DK: I was requested to contact as many of the underground as I could … to include militias, to include freedom groups.
This also included the people by themselves that just happen to have a gun, or are kind of like me -- too much hillbilly, too red of the neck, I’ve got too many guns and live in the woods.
 
DW: [laughs]
 
DK: The premise for my contacting those people was to tell them to get ready -- because this is coming. It’s not going to be stopped. And it’s coming a lot sooner than people think.
 
 
DON’T ENGAGE OUR MILITARY
 
DK: And the other part of it is -- don’t, under any circumstances -- engage our military.
That’s not what this is about. You find out from them, you know: What’s up?
Oh, we’re just going down here.
Oh, okay.
Sometimes, some of these people will be contacted to assist them.
In other words, this is going to be an all-out effort in this country, and it’s going to take a lot of people.
 
 
FEMA CAMPS WILL BE USED TO HOLD THOSE WHO ARE ARRESTED
 
DK: There are [laughs] a considerable number who need to be removed from office or their responsibilities: contained, retained and arrested.
Now my understanding is they’re planning to populate the FEMA camps with all these dinks. And I feel that’s appropriate. They built them for us. Now you can go take a camping trip in them. [laughs]
 
DW: Karma is a bitch.
 
DK: Yeah, so I’m looking at that. Okay.
 
 
THERE MAY BE SOME INTERRUPTIONS
 
DK: Doing this is not, to me, as extraordinarily anxiety-producing as a lot of people would think. I’m not as concerned with this part of it as I am [of] what comes after. There is going to be some interruption.
In other words, you need to get some extra toilet paper and a few extra cans of canned goods.
And I’m talking about have enough for, say, a month or two. That should basically cover the lapse in time.
Not all the trucks are going to be running, so those groceries get cleaned out when everybody thinks that the world’s gone mad -- or a little like they do during a hurricane.
 
DW: Right.
 
DK: Then, you know, if it doesn’t get resupplied, what are you going to do?
Well, this is why we got extra food. This is why a lot of people up here do. This is why people up here raise their own gardens.
Simply, you can [as in canning food] stuff and you put it up.
Having that extra not only is less expensive than going to the grocery, but just in case something does screw up real bad.
It’s coming for, say, ten days.
 
 
GET SOME EXTRA TOILET PAPER
 
DK: I don’t know how many people consider the importance of this, but to me, being civilized does equate to the use of certain hygienic items.
One of those that I know of that, to me, is extraordinarily important is simple, plain ‘ol toilet paper. [laughs]
It might behoove people to think about not being able to go down to the grocery when you run out and get some more.
And I’m going to tell you, newspaper doesn’t make it. It’s hard on certain things that you don’t want to rough up…[laughs]

DK: You know. Very simply, I mean, you know, you have to think in terms of what do you use, okay?
And what do you use commonly? And what are the convenience items that might not be part of a shipment that does make it through, okay?
Or does get to you that’s not considered a survival-level item? Toilet paper, simple tissues for your nose, sanitary napkins for ladies …
 
 
SIMPLE RICE AND BEANS MAY BE ENOUGH FOR FOOD STORAGE
 
DW: People can subsist on simple rice and beans, you know. All these elaborate products that a lot of these freedom sites are selling are not really necessary.
I mean, it might make you more comfortable, but if somebody’s really at poverty level, you can get by with just buying some kidney beans, some brown rice and just keep that in your pantry.
 
DK: Yeah, exactly. It doesn’t take a lot. The idea is this, okay? Yeah, lay up some extra toilet paper. If you’re lucky, you can find it on sale, go at it that way.
If you find something that you know really tastes extraordinarily good, but it’s $1.49 and they got the other ones two for a dollar, take the two for a dollar.
It’s not that much different and you can make out just fine on it. Add a little bit of spices to it and you’re good.
 
 
THE PLAN CONTINUALLY SAYS IT IS TO BE PEACEFUL AND NON-INTERRUPTIVE
 
DK: Anyway, the survival part I don’t think is going to be all that critical, and I’ll tell you why.
The Plan itself reiterates many times -- the portion that I read -- that this is to be a non-interruptive, non-chaotic [and] peaceful -- meaning non-shooting type of an action.
That is an extraordinary difference between all these people out here saying: Oh boy, rosin up your gun, get your bullets out.
You know: Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition -- they’re comin’.
Well, yeah – in fact, the military is going down the road because they need to go over and secure the power plant that the bad guys would like to blow up.
 
 
ANY ACCOUNTABILITY, AT THIS POINT, IS REAL PROGRESS
 
DW: I would also encourage people [to relax.]
As I said, there are many people out there who are playing a game. The game is that everything they hear must not be true.
So they’re going to say every single thing this guy, Drake, is saying is not true -- and this is all a pretext for martial law, and for a New World Order.
So, I would say to them -- and you can address them as well -- but I want to say something first.
Let’s realistically consider that if arrests start to be made and evidence is provided -- that is progress, no matter what.
Even if it is ultimately -- and that might be as far as they could think of it in their own minds -- one negative faction against another negative faction.
The fact is, let’s be honest. How many bankers went to jail during the bailout?
How many people have ever been held accountable for anything? If we start seeing real accountability, by God, that’s progress.
Regardless of what you may think, you’ve got to be able to see that it’s a step forward, no matter what.
If you start seeing mass arrests, something has changed. It breaks out of that policy that goes back to the Masons, which is: Everybody who’s in on it gets a free pass.
 
DK: Exactly. [laughs]
 
 
RELAX AND DO NOT TAKE IMMEDIATE, AGGRESSIVE ACTIONS
 
DK: My suggestion is to, yes, be ready, but also relax.
Be calm, cool, collected and slow to pull the trigger -- unless somebody acts unfriendly toward you; I wouldn’t necessarily take any aggressive action toward them. Wait and see.
 
DW: Sure.
 
DK: Yeah, you can let them [US military, etc] just walk right up to you. It doesn’t matter.
 
 
 
THIS IS A RESTORATION OF FREEDOM
 
DK: As I said, this plan calls for a combination of the things that our original documents call for.
The basis of this is to officially remove those people who tax you to death for no good reason -- other than to put it in their pockets.
This is to remove the private central banking system.
This is to remove a whole load of regulations and regulatory agencies that don’t serve any purpose other than control.
In other words, this is the freedom.
Now with that freedom come the responsibility of being what you’re supposed to be to everybody that you come across.
This is contained in the Golden Rule: Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You.
Say Hi to somebody. Wouldn’t you like somebody to say Hi and wave at you? It feels good, okay?
 
 
FINANCIAL CHANGES
 
DK: The other thing that they have is financial backing that is ancient. Now, by that I mean the original Chinese rulers, people in Taiwan, people in Viet Nam. They’re all throughout the Eastern areas.
This deals with the extraordinary accounts called Global Settlement Accounts, and things of that nature, as well as a funding organization. Benjamin Fulford has mentioned this extremely well. 
One of the things that took place recently -- and this is something that I was really following closely.
I found a couple of places that note world financial changes.
One of those changes is that the unallied nations finally formulated an agreement -- and the agreement was that they would have their own financial system.
That basically started last Thursday, in terms of being operational. They actually turned it on for the first time to see that everything worked.
Friday they tested it. Saturday they tested it for real, in terms of transfers of small amounts of money back and forth so nobody would notice.
And Sunday they gave the thing a rest, put it on standby. They turned it on Monday morning.
And I thought this was really neat -- they didn't say anything to anybody! 
 
 
MOST NATIONS OF THE WORLD HAVE FORMED AN ALLIANCE
 
DK: There are about 200 nations, give or take, out there.
As I understand it, the non-allied nations that are participating in this, they number like 130 or 140, something along in there.
 
DW: Right.
 
DK: They have stepped outside of the financial control of the G5, G20.
They are outside of that -- and offer an immunity to the capability of these bad guys to get a hold of any finance.
This is the reason that the Eurozone is having such troubles. This is the reason that the United States is looking real "iffy", and it goes on from there.
  
THE DOLLAR WILL CHANGE FROM A “DEBT INSTRUMENT” TO AN “EQUITY INSTRUMENT”
 
DW: Well, the US dollar is the global reserve currency, as per the Bretton Woods Agreement -- and the US dollar is a Federal Reserve Note. 
 
DK: There is going to be a change from what I understand, from what we have now, which is called a "debt instrument," to an "equity instrument".
In other words, there's been enough dollars printed lately [laughs] to probably sink something.
I don't know the volume of the money that’s been printed, but I DO know that as a world reserve currency, there's a large load of dollars out there.
 
DW: Right.
 
 
THE EXCHANGE SHOULD BE ONE-TO-ONE FOR THE LITTLE GUY
 
DK: The number of dollars in relation to this new currency is such that a revaluation, or refunding of, or exchange of that number of dollars for this agreed-to currency supposedly puts us in a position of a basic one-to-one type of ratio of exchange for the little guy.
It does not include the big guys, from what I understand.